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"The NYPD Did Not Disclose the Url."

Yesterday, we asked:

"Does the 'anarchist website' exist? Was it fabricated? The author of the article, Patrice O'Shaughnessy, does not provide its source. Did she find it herself, or did she get it from the only person actually named in the article, Police Chief Ray Kelly?"

As it turns out, the answer seems to be the latter. Although muliple RNCWatch invesitgators made dozens of phone calls to the Daily News to get clarification on the "Anarchist Fury" article, it took a right-wing blogger, responding to our "Smackdown Challenge," to wring answers out of the Daily News.

Here's what Michael has to say about his efforts to find the sources of the Daily News piece.

"I searched for the quotes and their original sources. Using internet search engines did not bring any results. Eventually I emailed the New York Daily News and asked from where the quotes came. This is the response I received:

'The NYPD did not disclose the url of the website where they found this information; they merely quoted from it.'

My searching found nothing, which leads me to conclude that most likely there are no sources to be found."

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Posted by: infomouse | Jul 20, 2004 12:02:26 PM

(Note from RNCWatch: We were sent this correspondence with the Daily News regarding the paper's anarchist threat story. It is interesting to note that the Daily News admits at one point "the NYPD would not divulge the site URL." But the paper claims it was able to verify the contents of the site -- something no third party has done over the past week.)

-----Original Message-----

From: XXX
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 1:40 PM
To: NYDailyNews-news
Cc: NyDailynews-Webmaster; cshaw@nypost.com; nyc@newsday.com
Subject: re: query

In your cover story from July 11, 2004, The Daily News declared, "Internet-using anarchists are telling would-be troublemakers to decoy specially trained Labrador retrievers with gunpowder or ammonium nitrate-laced tablets in a bid to halt trains or even spur the evacuation of Madison Square Garden."

I have searched the internet but found nothing resembling this. Can you please point me toward the source of this information? A website or newsgroup? Or if this information came from a third party, please let me know where they found it. If you can't find out figure it out, I've CC'd the New York Post and NY Newsday on this in the hopes that they can/will do the reporting neccessary to uncover the source of this.

-----Original Message-----

From: "NyDailynews-Webmaster" Webmaster@web.nydailynews.com
To: XXX
Subject: RE: query
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 14:02:23 -0400

we asked that too, but the nypd would not divulge the site url


-----Original Message-----

From: XXX
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2004 2:51 PM
To: NyDailynews-Webmaster
Subject: RE: query

I see. does this mean it is just unverified hearsay? did you cross-check it with any other sources?

-----Original Message-----

From: "NyDailynews-Webmaster" Webmaster@web.nydailynews.com
To: XXX
Subject: RE: query
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:38:47 -0400

we did, and now have found the site. but as it espouses illegal activities, we will not be publishing it.

-----Original Message-----

From: XXX
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:14 AM
To: NyDailynews-Webmaster
Subject: RE: query

would you be so kind as to foward the url to me. I have been searching for the site, but have been unable to find it. I'd like to see it for myself becuase I've been utterly unable to find it by internet searching, which I find very strange.

-----Original Message-----

From: "NyDailynews-Webmaster" Webmaster@web.nydailynews.com
To: XXX
Subject: RE: query
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:31:43 -0400

sorry, legal dept. says no publishing, no distribution.


-----Original Message-----

From: XXX
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 11:50 AM
To: NyDailynews-Webmaster
Subject: RE: query

But you published information from it? How did that pass the legal department?

I'd just like confirmation that ther site does exist. If you can't give me the URL, just please offer some proof. That's all I ask. Whatever legal will allow would be fine.

Thanks much for all of your time and consideration.


-----Original Message-----

From: "NyDailynews-Webmaster" Webmaster@web.nydailynews.com
To: XXX
Subject: RE: query
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:37:18 -0400

we published what the nypd said they discovered (and we verified) is on the site, not the url. trust me, there is much more waiting there for terrorist wannabes.

Posted by: RNCWatch | Jul 21, 2004 8:32:01 PM

wow. thats f-ing unreal. they're so full of it. good job getting this info out of them.

Posted by: wow | Jul 22, 2004 10:47:08 AM

to NyDailynews-Webmaster, would you be interest in interviewing some actual anarchists? not the little kiddy poser kind who like to blow thingsup, the real kind that promote peace and the three uglf rules of law, I would be glad to answer any questions you might have via email.
surely if anti-anarchy news can be put up so easily pro-anarchy should as well? I for one sure as he;; like to hear both sides of the story before making judgement.

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